The National Publicity Secretary of Ohanaeze Ndiigbo, Mr. Tony Oganah, in this interview with ALLWELL OKPI, condemned the recent relocation of about 70 persons from Lagos to Onitsha, Anambra State, by the Lagos State Government
What is Ohanaeze’s reaction to the news that about 70 persons, mostly Igbo, were deported from Lagos and dumped in Onitsha?
We didn’t react immediately because we
were too shocked and stupefied that this could happen. Virtually all
Igbo organisations in Lagos have worked in close proximity with the
Governor Babatunde Fashola administration, which, up until now, has done
very well. But, what has happened can completely rubbish the
achievement of Fashola. The governor and I were in school together, we
both read law; he was a year ahead of me. This is contrary to everything
Fashola stood for in his undergraduate days. We can only assume that
whoever did that acted out of overzealousness. I hate to think that
Governor Fashola could sit down to concoct such opium against the Igbo.
Hitler never did that; they never did that even in South Africa. During
the apartheid in South Africa, blacks who did not have pass and were
found in areas where whites resided were rounded up, tried and punished,
if found guilty. In the case of what happened in Lagos, the people were
not even given the luxury of the provision of the 1999 Constitution
that if you are accused of wrongdoing, you must be given a fair trial.
We even have information that all the people were not Igbo people, even
the Igbo among them were not even from Anambra State. They were not
given a chance to say goodbye to their loved ones, they were not given a
chance to carry their bags; they were not given a chance to explain
themselves. They were summarily arrested and deported in the same
country. Everybody carries Nigerian passport and up till now, there is
no law that says any Nigerian cannot live and work in any part of
Nigeria. The Igbo are known for being adventurous and entrepreneurial;
anywhere we settle down is our second home. We invest anywhere; we build
houses anywhere. For this to happen is shocking. Something tells us
that there is a political undertone to all of this. The mainstream
Yoruba party, the Action Congress of Nigeria; the mainstream northern
party, the Congress for Progressive Change; and a faction of the All
Progressives Grand Alliance have merged to become All Progressives
Congress. Perhaps, this shows that if APC takes over government, Igbo
people may face more stress. Up till now, the Lagos State Government has
yet to explain what happened and it has gone ahead to add insult to
injury by getting an Igbo man, who works for them — the spokesman of
erstwhile ACN in Lagos, Joe Igbokwe — to justify something that is
unjustifiable.
But Igbokwe said the persons that
were relocated to Onitsha were the destitute, some of whom were mentally
unstable, constituting nuisance and security threats; and that the
action was aimed at helping them reunite with their families in the
South-East.
If you arrest somebody and say the
person is mentally unstable, how then are you able to determine which
state the person comes from? How were they sure that the person who said
he was from Onitsha was not from Kogi? It is only a psychiatrist that
can ascertain the mental state of anybody. Even the Lagos traffic law
says if you were caught driving against traffic, you would be checked by
a psychiatrist to find out whether you are mentally fit or not. But in
this case, they were the psychiatrists; they were the executioners; they
bundle the people into a truck and drove them to Onitsha. Let them
bring the certificates of their psychological evaluation. You can’t
arrest somebody because the person does not have a shelter or access to
water and conclude that the person is destitute because of his
appearance. Maybe, if the person does not carry an ATM card, they will
conclude that the person does not have a means of livelihood.
Has Fashola government been opposed to Igbo people in Lagos?
This has rubbished the works of Governor
Fashola, who has been the darling of Igbo people. We voted for him and
to compensate us, he appointed an Igbo man, Ben Akabueze, a pastor of
the Redeemed Christian Church of God, in his cabinet to oversee economic
activities. What they have done is to rubbish the rapport that the Igbo
and Yoruba have in Lagos. They should not forget that Igbo people
control at least 65 per cent of economic activities in Lagos. If you
talk about buildings, the Igbo will have at least half of the buildings
in Lagos; the Igbo constitute at least 45 per cent of the voting
population of Lagos. Is this how they want to romance us for 2015? Are
they saying this is how the government will be under the APC? Is this
the way to thank Igbo people who have left their homeland and found
homes everywhere in this country, and are investing? Ohanaeze is
disturbed. We waited to see if they will retract it but they didn’t,
that is why we are reacting.
Would you say there is an anti-Igbo sentiment in Lagos?
One thing I know is that Yoruba and Igbo
people have always been rivals for power; competitors of some sort.
Before the civil war, the Igbo were on top, no doubt about that. They
were on top, not just in politics and academics but generally. Our
people travel a lot and build their homes wherever they are. As a result
of this, whenever the indigenes suffer frustration, they met it out on
Igbo people. I will hate to think that Fashola sat down to concoct that
because I hold him in high esteem. Some people might have been
overzealous and to save face, they got Igbokwe to try to justify the
action. I will hate to think that the Yoruba hate Igbo people that much.
Let’s not forget that Yoruba people also live in Igboland. It is
disturbing because this is not the first time it is happening; it is
neither the second nor the third time, and we not happy about it. We
support Governor Peter Obi who has written a petition to Mr. President
on this. I’m sure even Fashola, in his sober moment as a constitutional
lawyer, will know that this is indefensible. You just see people on the
road; you hound them and you say you are building one nation where
tongues and tribes do not differ. Is it like this? It’s disturbing.
Is this kind of involuntary relocation possible under the constitution?
No. You can’t relocate people without
their consent. Governor Fashola is a lawyer, I’m also a lawyer and I
don’t want to say so much about this Yoruba-Igbo issue. It is delicate
and the President does not need this kind of distraction. That is why
Ohanaeze has tried as much as possible to downplay it. I won’t be
surprised if any of those people sues Lagos State Government. You can’t
just do that without even announcing that you want to carry out such
exercise. To even say that of all tribes in the country, Igbo people
were begging on the street is laughable. How many times have you seen an
Igbo beggar? Our people are noted for hard work. How can you say you
are targeting the destitute and a bulk of them is Igbo, and you dump
them in Onitsha; what are you saying?
But Igbokwe said similar relocations had been made to other states, including those in the South-West?
You mean they took Yoruba people from Lagos to states like Oyo and Osun? I don’t believe that.
Will Ohanaeze take any step to ensure that this does not happen again?
We have decided to stay action for now
because Mr. President has a lot on his table. We want Mr. President and
all the governors to concentrate on giving us good governance between
now and 2015, when Igbo people will determine who they will vote for.
For now, we won’t press the matter but if it happens again, Ohanaeze
will seriously consider a legal action against the Lagos State
Government.
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